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i just wish the media and the republicans would put as much effort into rebuilding the middle class as they have to selling junk insurance to us which, of course, has been a big discussion the last several weeks. senator bernie sanders, great to have you with us on "the ed show." thanks so much. i'm ed shultz. "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. welcome to "politicsnation." election night 2013. i'm al sharpton, and for the next hour we'll be covering this big night in american politics. across the country tonight, voters are going to the polls as they have been doing all day. more than 300 mayoral elections races are at stake. and more than 200 legislative
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offices. and there are several big state referendums as well. but the biggest matchups are the governors races in virginia and new jersey. in virginia democrat terry mcauliffe leads in the polls against republican ken cuccinelli. in new jersey, gop governor chris christie is hoping for a big win by avoiding the tea party. even embracing president obama and working with a democrat. here in new york city, bill de blasio is thought to be the most progressive in decades. but the main event will be in the key bellwether state of virginia. it is where tea partiers like ken cuccinelli became a tea party star with comments like this. >> the ultimate goal which is to
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make abortion disappear in america. homosexual acts are wrong and should not be accommodated in government policy. someone's going to have to come forward with nailed down testimony that he was born in place "b," wherever that is. you know, the speculation's kenya. and that doesn't seem beyond the realm of possibility. >> birther jokes and attacks on women and gays. that's not a winning message in the year of 2013. cuccinelli also led a charge to shut down womens health centers and refused to say whether he supports equal pay measures. and a republican candidate for lieutenant governor is just as extreme. >> planned parenthood has been far more lethal to black lives than the kkk ever was. and the democrat party and their black civil rights allies are partners in this genocide. >> that w's what's on the ballo
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in virginia. the state that becomes critical in national politics. and some brand new nbc exit polls show what voters there are thinking. the nbc news exit polls ask voters how they feel about the tea party movement. in virginia, 43% say they oppose the tea party. just 30% say they support it. we're seeing even worse numbers in new jersey. 47% say they oppose the tea party. just 19% support. that's what americans are saying tonight about the right wing of the gop. and that's why the right wing is playing dirty. here's a robocall that some virginia voters have been hearing over the last couple of days. >> ken cuccinelli is a devout catholic and family man who supports a culture of life. terry mccaul call live supports abortion on demand at any time for any reason paid for by virginia taxpayers.
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>> abortion on demand? it's not true, and it's a sign of just how desperate and out of touch the right wing has become. joining me are former pennsylvania governor ed rendell and jess mcintosh. thank you both for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> our pleasure. >> jess, how important has the abortion issue been in the virginia race? >> look, i think women's issues, women voters have been absolutely critical in virginia. because they have a candidate who is literally the human embodiment of the republican war on women. we saw in 2012 historic gender gaps. more women turned out for democrats than ever before in history. and it was because they were rejecting a buffet of terrible policies that roll back the clocks on women's rights and opportunities. and ken cuccinelli has accepted every item on that menu. that's why we'll see even more
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women turning out today. >> governor rendell, it's been a major problem with the gop, the gender gap. in 2012 the president bested mitt romney among women by 12 points, 55-43. and today in virginia the gap is twice that. cuccinelli trails by 24 points among women. when will they learn, governor? >> it's amazing. you would have thought 2012 would have taught them something. but they went and started passing personhood amendments and things that were really repugnant to ordinary women. what cuccinelli has done is he's made those issues the center of his campaign. if you juxtapose him to christie, he's pro-life. but governor christie does not make that a talking point in his campaign. there's a big difference. the difference is on emphasis. they haven't learned that this may be a winning strategy for
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primaries, but it is a losing, losing strategy for general elections. >> the governor said something really important which is if republicans could learn their lesson they would have. if republicans had read 2012, we never would have had cuccinelli as a candidate right now. but they went out and picked the exact worst person to represent them in the state of virginia. and we're seeing in 2014 the lineups in georgia, the lineups in north carolina. these guys make todd akin look moderate. so i would love to think that republicans were going to wake up and start trying to appeal to women, but it doesn't honestly seem they've learned lessons at all. >> jess, when you look at the record, i mean terrible record of ken cuccinelli, i agree with you that it probably was the worst candidate they could come with. he was the attorney general for governor ultrasound bob mcdonnell. he withheld support from the violence against women act. he opposed abortions even in
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cases of rape and incest. and he wrote legislation to defund planned parenthood. you couldn't have gotten a worse candidate for women after 2012. i don't know what they were looking at in terms of the results, governor. >> no, i absolutely agree with you. it's astonishing. it's just as astonishing when they say we need more in the african-american community and then they adopt policies or say things that are inept for african-american voters and latino voters. it's not the outreach. it's not the messenger. it's the things you say and what you believe in. they haven't learned one wit. and notwithstanding the fact there are obviously problems on the democratic side, they're headed towards, i think, a disaster in '14 and worse from their standpoint, a losing ticket in '16 because they haven't learned. and the interesting thing, rev, is that there are republican
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examples out there, not just chris christie. but the midwest governors, kasich and snyder. who do not actively go out and wage war against women. >> that's true. >> they stand a good chance of getting re-elected. >> you know, jess, what is an interesting fact is even in a state where republican governor chris christie is winning, new jersey voters still have an unfavorable opinion of the gop. 39% have a favorable opinion of the gop. 57% have an unfavorable view. so really christie's doing well by distancing himself from the party. >> well, the thing is christie's got the same -- we know how to beat christie in 2016. he is cut from the same mold as ken cuccinelli. as soon as we start talking about the actual direction he wants to take this country, women and the issues you
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mentioned, those don't turn off just democratic women. independent women, republican women. we do a lot of research into voters. and women on neither side of the aisle want to be disrespected. so if chris christie starts talking about the policies that he believes in and the agenda that he wants to take, women are going to flock to the democratic side as soon as they start hearing that. >> isn't that the case, governor, because it's a big win tonight for christie but isn't it the case that 2014, 2016 that people have said things that have core values that transcend their party differences. and as you mentioned if you're women, if you're gay, if you're an immigrant, if you're african-american, there are some things that has nothing to do with party labels. it has everything to do with the policies and values you believe in. >> right. and i think she made a terrific point. i think chris christie is not
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only or his basic core values are extremely conservative, but he's making the same mistake mitt romney made. he's trying to go further to the right. he's changed his position on a couple of key issues to go further to the right to appease republican primary voters. and then if he does that, if he continues to go in that direction, it's going to be impossible for him to get back and do well in the center in a general election. so we're seeing no one's learning. chris christie says i'm my own man, and yet you can see him creeping to the right and changing his position to appeal to republican primary voters. well, that's not being your own man and it won't wash in a general. >> what races are you particularly watching tonight, governor? >> well, interestingly, the one that i'm most interested in is the colorado referendum on education. where voters are going to be asked to pay more taxes to fund
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education. and voters in colorado, the polls show, care very much about funding for education, but there's been a withering campaign on the other side. that's an issue that talks to me about the central question of what type of america are we going to have? >> what are you going to be watching tonight, jess? >> mayors. mayors. we have amazing democratic women running all over the country. we have betsy hodges in minneapolis. we need more democratic women in these executive leadership seats. i think we might get a few tonight. >> i'm going to have to hold it there. jess, next time why don't you be a little specific. thank you both for your time tonight. it's a big election night here on msnbc. coming up, the chairman of the republican national committee is blaming president obama for creating a, quote, culture of hatred. yes, you heard that right. plus rand paul's plagiarism
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problem just got worse. now he's asking people to, quote, leave him the hell alone, end quote. and the coded language of the confederacy is back on the big republican stage. we'll look at the ugly trend. and friend or foe, i want to know. reply al is ahead. [ sniffles, coughs ]
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welcome back to election night on "politicsnation." the polls in virginia close in less than 45 minutes. one election night a year ago, it was mitt romney who was coming. president obama ran away with the 2012 election. the republican party knew it had to change, and the republican national committee chair reince priebus focused on avoiding extreme rhetoric. >> if you go around and say a
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lot of bilogically stupid things and create a caricature to become reality, it hurts your ability to win an election. >> okay, great. very good point. so to sum it up, what was the problem in 2012? >> a lot of idiotic things said. >> yeah. a lot of idiotic things said. but what's priebus saying now? >> it's the culture that the president's cultivated here. a culture of dishonesty, a culture of hatred. >> is he kidding? president obama has cultivated a culture of hatred? he was blaming the president because two democrats compared tea partiers to members of the ku klux klan b. let's be clear, those comparisons are inappropriate. but to accuse president obama of cultivating a culture of hatred when he's faced complete and total obstruction from the
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republican party since his first day in office. those on the right regularly accuse him of being a kenyan born socialist dictator. let's look at the culture in the gop. virginia's republican candidate opposes abortion even in the case of rape and incest. he once said gay people are destroying their souls. then there's dean young, a congressional candidate in alabama. he thinks president obama was born in kenya. and once said that gays should leave alabama and, quote, go back to california or vermont or wherever they came from. what about ted cruz who once called president obama the most radical president ever? he gets his political philosophy from his father, rafael. who recently -- who was recently caught on camera saying this.
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>> when you hear all these things about homosexual marriage, this has nothing to do with homosexual rights. did you know that? the whole objective is the destruction of the traditional family. has nothing to do with homosexuals. they could care less about homosexuals. they want to destroy the family. >> if priebus is worried about the culture of hatred, he better take a long, hard look at his own party. joining me now are goldie taylor and nia-malika henderson. they say the democrats have a culture of hatred. is he just firing up the republican base? >> i think that's right. you saw mitt romney. when he ran, this was part of his sort of argument as well on a talking point he had being that president obama was one of the most divisive presidents
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even. marco rubio said the same thing. nobody ever believed that. when you look at that growth and opportunity project, the autopsy of the republican party that reince priebus released after the campaign, it showed that people who were polled thought it was republicans who were too divisive. so you had this rebranding which in some ways has happened i think for a segment of the party. for another segment of the party, they very much rejected that. it might be the cruz wing. for folks like dean young, he's very much a different sort of strain of the republican party. i think the question now is where is that ceiling for the strain of the republican party. where -- it's sort of the tea party in some ways, but i think we've seen it's maybe relegated to the south. probably relegated to the house of representatives not clear if this guy is even going to get out of his primary fight. >> you know, goldie, we've heard a lot about how republicans are
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rebranding themselves this year. but here's something else that priebus said last night. listen to this. >> it's the democratic party that has a shameful history. it's not the republican party. i think it's about time that we also as republicans start recapturing the real history of the republican party and not let these guys rewrite the history of equality, freedom, and opportunity which is what this party is all about. >> the republican party was the party of equality. but we're not in the 1950s anymore. i mean, is this the best they can do? >> i really do think that it is the best that they could do. reince priebus put together what we called an autopsy. i think what this party needs is an inquest. they need to look at the body. obviously they got it wrong on this so-called rebranding effort. the fact of the matter is republicans did for aery long time in this country represent the party of equal protection. then we had the civil rights act happen. and so now today you've got a
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republican party built out of the old dixie-crats. certainly wouldn't want blacks or lbgts living in their community. so just to take a look at this party in the very shrinking tent it seems to be embracing really defies what we need in this country which is a strong two-party system. without that we don't get the best solutions. we don't get the best governing. what we get is this gridlock we're seeing today. >> nia-malika, if we're going to talk about a culture of hatred, let's address some of the things that elected republicans have said about the president. take a listen. >> i think president obama is the most radical president we've ever seen. >> i don't know whether barack obama was born in the united states or not. i don't know. but i do know this, that in his heart, he's not an american. he's just not an american. >> i'm afraid that president obama may have this king complex
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sort of developing. >> the general consensus is that he has produced a birth certificate. the question is is it legitimate? >> now, aside from this kind of ugly hate-filled kind of rhetoric that no one is really denouncing in the republican leadership, i really also want you to address the split in the party. because it seems like some are so fixated on president obama, they will say and do the most outrageous things no matter what. and it has become politically an albatross of the party. >> it looks like cuccinelli is going to lose a race that republicans could have won if they had nominated a more moderate person.
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>> you have people like kasich who is the governor of ohio talking about the party in a different way. they are trying to figure out how to relate to normal people on the ground. and it's working very much -- very well for somebody like chris christie who has this coalition of black people, of latinos, of women, of democrats. and he is going to romp in this race in new jersey. so that probably looks more like where the republican party will be nationally in 2016. and we've seen that before that when republicans run nationally, thigh try to be a little bit more moderate, kinder, gentler, that whole thing bush ran on in 2000. >> you know, when you look at it, it seems like a lot of this rhetoric comes directly from right wing talkers. and that's what we hear from them. listen to this. >> barack obama is trying to dismantle brick by brick the
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american dream. >> last night america watched as the president of the united states actually argued something i believe is treason. >> you are destroying my children's future. >> this is what we have as a president, a radical ideologue, ruthless politician who despises the country. >> barack obama is a socialist. he believes in socialism in redistributing wealth, in confiscating hard-earned dollars. >> now, if in fact they lose virginia, if in fact a moderate governor who embraced the president wins in new jersey, if they take these big losses, will they start dropping some of the rhetoric and start echoing what a lot of the talkers are saying? >> in a word, no. the establishment isn't in charge anymore. there used to be a strong national gop chairman who would call the parties in and say this is how it's going to go.
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and the power has shifted. in large part payoff the right wing talkers. these two groups are largely self-fun funded. there is no more accountability to d.c. these people are really waging their own worse. so will they drop this harsh right wing bigoted rhetoric? s no, they won't. they want to turn around and say things like president obama put together a pack and put in a fake libertarian. they're going to blame other things and not themselves. >> chairman rush limbaugh among others. goldie taylor, nia-malika henderson, thank you both for your time. >> thank you. coming up, more coded language from the right wing. the gop's partying like it's 1860, and it's not pretty. you're watching a special election night edition of "politicsnation." less than 35 minutes until the polls close in virginia.
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welcome back to our special coverage of election night 2013. voters all across the country still heading to the polls at this hour. these are live pictures from the election headquarters of tea party republican ken cuccinelli, the gop governors candidate in virginia. last night he trotted out former congressman ron paul at his final rally to try to drum up tea party support. and paul's rallying cry for election night 2013 was a talking point from the 1800s. >> i've been working on the assumption that nullification is going to come. it's going to be a de facto nullification if it's not legalized. because pretty soon things are going to get so bad that we're just going to ignore the feds and run our own lives and our own states. >> nullification is going to come. the closing argument at cuccinelli's final rally was a promise to ignore federal law
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and to embrace nullification, a concept once used to defend slavery. it's an extraordinary position to take, but it's spreading in the gop. today we learn the republican state senators in south carolina are going to hold public meetings on their new plan to nullity obama care in the state. and in missouri, republicans are introducing a new measure to nullify federal gun laws. so the right wing's big new idea is to embrace one of the oldest and ugliest ideas in our political history. nullification. it dates back to the 1820s. south carolina politician john calhoun game up with nullification as a way to let slave-owning states ignore potential anti-slavery laws from washington. it was a terrible idea then, and it's a terrible idea now.
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critics have said the gop is stuck in the '50s, and they're right. the 1850s. joining me now are michael eric dyson and dana milbank. thanks for coming on the show. >> hi, reverend. >> michael, nullification surfaced at the final rally for a republican candidate last night. what's your thought on this? >> we've been celebrating the 50th anniversary of the march on washington and that speech that martin luther king jr. made. remember he said about those southern politicians whose lips were dripping with the words of interposition and nullification, this is what he was referring to. interposition is close lly alli to nullification. the idea states have the right to push back on federal law. and nullification is not only to push back on it, but to really refuse to implement it on the local level. so here we have the harkening back as you give the history
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lesson to those who are unaware of the uses of these principles to make unconstitutional any attempt of the federal government to impose justice on local municipalities and to have federal law recognize as it justly deserves to be. what happens here is cuccinelli and rand are making a last ditch effort to say that the tea party really is stuck in the 1850s and refuses to acknowledge obama care, and they'll do anything to subvert the principle of the application of this law no matter what it takes. even if it's harkening back to very troubling and i would argue racist beliefs. >> dana, when you look at a south carolina state senator saying that state nullification laws may be necessary, and i'm quoting him. he says thwarts implementation of this socialist insurance
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che scheme in our state. so you think if you don't like a federal law, you ignore it. what are the politics of this though? is this so extreme it will force moderates, independents, and some republicans to leave because even though they may disagree with obama cay or some other federal law? this is too extreme to deal with nullifying federal law or interposing state law as dr. dyson referred to dr. king's speech? >> well, as a practical matter, the idea of nullification going anywhere is pretty much nil. i think this is really about the nut-ification of the republican party that they're even talking about this sort of thing. let's face it, nullification is really just a precursor of secession which we've also heard some in the party talking about. maybe we should make this easier for them and just say why don't you guys just go ahead and you can form your little country without obama care down there in
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the deep south, and the blue states who are implementing obama care are actually the ones who put more in taxes into the country in the first place than they take out. it will be a much wealthier operation. >> yeah, dr. dyson, i see what dana's talking about nut-ification. it's not just south carolina. 11 states have enacted nullification laws. 11 conservative counties in colorado are voting on exactly that today. they want to create a 51st state. and a lot of right wing media pundits have been pushing the secession idea since president obama first was elected. listen to this. >> i'm not for secession, but i understand why people might be. >> in the end if you're going to jam all this stuff down our throats, then maybe it would be about secession. some people would probably say,
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yeah, i think maybe it's time to get out of this. >> this is a reasonable woman, she's talking about secession. civil war. she's not alone, folks. this is not the rantings of extreme kookism anymore. >> for two years the tea party has dominated and ran the party and has been the big guys of the gop. but tonight they may lose, they may get punched in the mouth in virginia tonight. >> well, we hope so. this discourse of secessionism again is related ultimately to the civil war which is also related to the fact that this nation went through its bloodiest battle over the future of its nation and the destiny of this great nation which was about would we allow people to be enchained and entombed in slavery or to rise free and be able to maximize their potential as american citizens. so here these secessionists again are so willing to just gut
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the heart of american democracy and to re-read the constitution through the narrow lens of their bigotry that they refuse to acknowledge as brother dana said, that this is nutty. it's not going to work, but the problem is it's such a vicious, venomous assault upon president obama and those who look like him that i fear that this kind of divisive ret reck only portrays the feeling like the feels they're promoting here does no good and only does harm to our nation. >> we're going to have to leave it there. we're out of time. sorry to get back to you, dana, so you can talk about my beautiful history lessons. but we'll see you next time. thank you for your time tonight. >> thanks. coming up, actor hill hopper is best known for his work on screen, but his greatest role yet is happening off camera. he'll join me live on set next.
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at this very moment, americans all over the country are heading to the polls, but millions will not be able to vote. and it's not because of voter i.d. laws as bad as they are. no. 5.9 million americans have lost their voting rights sometimes
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for life because of crimes they once committed. in virginia alone, more than 300,000 citizens will be barred from the polls tonight. including 20% of the state's black population. the saying goes do the crime and pay by the time. but for many who committed a felony and served their sentences, they're never really done paying. it's just another sign of our broken criminal justice system. today we live in a nation with more prisoners than high school teachers. that's a statistic that we should be ashamed of. and on election night, we should be talking about what happens after the election. what can we do to bring about change to millions trapped in this system? actor, author, and humanitarian hill hopper is looking to do something about it. you know him from his roll on the hit tv drama "csi: new york"
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and the cia bureau chief on the usa network spy drama "covert affairs." but his latest role is as author of "letters to an incourse rated brother." he offers encouragement and hope for inmates and their loved ones. joining me now is actor, humanitarian, and author hill hopper. thanks for coming on the show tonight. >> thanks for having me, rev. >> you know, this is a very, very provocative subject but important. and among the many things, you're an award-winning actor. what made you want to write about this? >> i didn't expect to dive into this issue, to be honest. what started to happen is it won the american library association award for best book for young adults. and officer who is deal with juvenile justice and judges started assigning the book to young men who were being
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incarcerated. and they had to write a book report. and wardens would start sending me these book reports. i was like why am i getting book reports from prisons? i'd continue to get more letters. as i got more letters, they were increasingly moving. you know what? i got to dive into this issue and start seeing what's going on. then as i started to uncover more and more data, you know, you start to realize that in our country we lock up 6 to 10 times more people than any other industrialized nation in the world. for the past 30 years we had 300,000 incarcerated individuals. it's ballooned to 2.4 million. many on probation who have lost voting rights. this is a hyperincarceration crisis in our country. i wanted to write a book to shine a light on that and bring some humanity and sense to this issue. >> the book is really personal. because you begin the book with a letter you received from a young man behind bars.
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>> yes. >> and it says, quote, my name is brian and i'm 16 years old. many young people don't have a role model. i didn't have one. that's why i'm in jail. >> exactly. when i got that letter, it's the first letter that appears in the book. tears came to my eyes. because this young man, he's in prison, but he's so vulnerable. then what you don't read is in the letter he says, you know, i'm not sure if you're ever going to get this letter because it's sent to the publishing company. but if you do see it, please write me back. please. and there's so many whether they be young people or adults who are incarcerated and forgotten. and then we start adding the statistics. there are so many things to talk about as a problem. we need to bring some solutions to bear. and what's interesting -- >> and role models shouldn't be underestimated. i write about it in "rejected stone" that role models are
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important. but an environment because one of the things you and i talk about when we have been together is you know the president very well. both of y'all went to harvard together. and a lot of it is your environment helps you to have people that aspire like you do or not aspire like you do or are lost like you may be. and people don't put that into the conversation. >> no, no, no, they don't. and they also don't put in the conversation, what are you doing with the people once you put them there. are you actually, for instance, with privatization of prisons, we have a system that inse insentivizes people to come back to prison bap because the mode is filling the beds. one man i interviewed his correction officer would tell him every day that he's happy he's here because it gives him job security. the day he was getting out the
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correction officer said i'm sure you'll be back because i need that job. >> wow. >> so i'm not saying every c.o. is like that, but i am saying that we have a system that's set up to create recidivism, to create incarceration for urban poor. unless we start to look at this, we have bernard carrot talking about recently when he went to prison he found out the system was broken. >> and you lose voting rights. i have a brother that is passionate about this, works on it all the time. restoring voting rights for ex-cons. >> only two states where ex-felons can vote. and without question as close as many races are, if you had the reenstatement of voting rights for ex-felons we would see different results. there are certain people in power that don't want that. and voting is a fundamental
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american right. i mean, that's the democratic ideal. and if you're caught doing something but for the grace of god there go i. we've all made mistakes. and it should not have to follow you for the rest of your life in that way. you served your time. you did what you did. you paid your penalty. now, let them get off. >> you got to follow the law, but you can't vote for those who make the laws. >> exactly. >> hill harper, thanks for coming on the show. the book again is "letters to an incarcerated brother." a stunning admission is ahead from a big city mayor. plus why was the president and first lady surprising visitors at the white house today? i'll explain. twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligations. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core,
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a remarkable political confession today. six months ago the toronto star first reported toronto's conservative mayor rob ford was caught on tape using crack cocaine. last week the toronto police chief said he had the video. mayor ford always denied the charge, and he dared the chief to show it. but today he admitted the truth. >> i know what i did was wrong and admitting it was the most
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difficult and embarrassing thing i have ever had to do. folks, i have nothing left to hide. >> he's refusing to resign. but you know this isn't the first mayor to get caught doing drugs. in 1990 marion berry, the first african-american mayor of washington, d.c. was caught on surveillance camera smoking crack cocaine. he was arrested by the fbi on drug charges and served six months in federal prison. but ultimately he won back the public trust. and won re-election as mayor in 1994. we'll be right back. it's eb. want to give your family the very best in taste, freshness, and nutrition? it's eb. want to give them more vitamins, omega 3s, and less saturated fat? it's eb. eggland's best eggs.
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where it goes. earlier today, though, at the white house after a seven-month break, tours reopened. and the first visitors got a big surprise. this wasn't part of the regular tour. the president, first lady, and dogs bo and sunny greeted families for more than 30 minutes as they entered this morning. and the first family had some fun with the guests. >> good to see you. excitement. >> it's terrific. well, it's good to have you guys here. enjoy. >> october 2nd? you know, we were trying to get the government reopened. otherwise i would have come. >> what a great day at the white house. finally tonight, i hope to see everyone at my book signing tomorrow night in washington, d.c. i'll be talking about and discussing the elections and

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